Discussion Group


Issue 20 · Spring Meeting, June 7, 2009

Our spring 2009 meeting was held at Jani Hamalainen’s in the stylish Merchandise Lofts in downtown Toronto.

In Attendance:   Steve Horan, Tim Moody, John Long, J. Mutch, Manuel Oliveira, Pina Vinci, Jake Calvo, Ken Strass, Jani Hamalainen, Simon Bell, Alan Calvo, Sam Schlifer, Georgia Calvo, Bruce Hodgson, Mike Yatsula, Matt Neima, Josh Kaell, Sarah Shrigley, Oliver Haddarath, Peter Sinclair, Timo Puhakka, David Delouchery.

A large group showed up for this meeting so lets see what everone had to say and show.  

Tim Moody announced that he had made a 4 minute anaglyphic  3D movie in the style of "Creature From the Black Lagoon" which he called "Creature from Grenadier Pond"

John Long brought a medium format folio along that he submits views to.  He also showed off the new focussible backlit medium format viewer.  It works well with the chinese mounts that are made for the 3D World camera.  He reports that the the 3D World Camera is great and the lenses are as good as a Hassleblad.
Manual Oliveira shared with us that he use to take 3D pictures about 20 years ago and sold them to the public. Eventually he closed the business and only recently discovered our club.

Pina Vinci has been involved with 3D for 15 years, she enjoys dong 3D presentations.  She just did one for her art class and will do one on Egypt for the Grade 5 class that she teaches.

Jake Calvo has enjoyed looking at holograms on display at the University of Toronto.

Ken Strass built a camera mount for his twin SD1000's.  

Jani Hamalainen syncs his shutters with his "patented" fingers.  He has frozen water an pigeons in flight.

Simon Bell is finally interested in selling his RBT 3D camera.  He has been using 2 SDM synced Canon's since Christmas but he still uses the Cha-Cha method for macro photography.  He was recently in Costa Rica and has taken lots of images of animals.  He made reference to Digi-dat from Germany which makes a shutter release and mount to be used in combination with Canon cameras and the Stereo Data Maker firmware.  They also offer a whole slew of products and accessories and are worth checking out.  www.digi-dat.de/index_eng.html

Alan Calvo is new to the group and was invited by Peter Sinclair.  He says that Peter has been showing them his lenticular prints for a while and Alan was glad to be invited out to the meeting.  He added that while they hadn't brought any item to show & tell he joked that anything that looked "healthy" at the snack table were brought by his family.

Georgia Calvo informed us that she is Alan's Mother and her interest in 3D began in the 1934-5.  Her grandmother had a stereopticon and as a little girl she loved going down to the library and looking at their great collection of 3D pictures.  Peter mentioned that near her home in the Dells, Wisconsin is a photographic studio by H.H. Bennett.     www.hhbennettstudio.wisconsinhistory.org   She was quite familiar with the place and also added that as a former psychologist she is also interested about our sensory perception when viewing 3D images.

Bruce Hodgson met Bob Wilson at a booth Bob had at the Ex and They discussed whether anyone else was interested in forming a 3D group.  Later he wrote a letter to Martin Bass who said that the 3D enthusiasts only in Ontario communicated by mail. Bruce suggested that they try and initiate a 3D meeting which eventually Martin Bass organized.  Bruce now buys disposable cameras from the drugstore shoots cha-cha method and then mounts his images onto both sides of cardstock.  He kidded that a good place to shoot cha-cha is in the cemetery because nothing moves. He is now ready to collect info on shooting in digital stereo. Bruce was also surprised to find a 3D image that his Grandfather took which was glued to the back of a professional stereograph.  Then he found a series of similar pictures that his father took which when fused accidently came out in 3D.  Bruce was pleased that working in 3D went so far back in his family.

Mike Yatsula showed off his Canon SD1000 system.  His cameras were covered in a rubber skin to prevent scratches and he created his own bracket, switch and a method for using USB extension cables.  He also pointed out that a 100 watt DC inverter was useful for charging camera batteries in his car.

Matt Neima said that Mike Yatsula sold him his first Stereo Realist.  Matt showed off the same Medium format viewer that John Long had and in addition had the second medium format folio that John and Matt belonged to. He welcomed us to look at the images.  A discussion then popped up about the cost of working in medium format.  It costs about $6 to develop at Imageworks  (www.torontoimageworks.com) for 6 pictures on a roll of 120mm film.  Provia F 400 film from B&H Photo in New York costs about $4 a roll.  The film allows for an extra 2 stops which is apparently “heaven” for those who use it.  It also offers nice saturated colours in lower overcast light as well.  Simon Bell said that the format adds yet another dimension.  As soon as Matt finished speaking, and much to our humour, he hightailed it to the snack table.
John Long then led a long discussion about the beauty of medium format compared to 35mm and digital images.  He has a “modern Taxiphote” which he calls his "Robot"  which is the Olga Stereo Slide Viewer.  It sells for $700 US at www.3Dstereo.com  It is designed to take quarters but can be rigged to view medium format 3D views without having to use up your pocket change.  John uses it at his gallery to display his images.

Josh Kaell
mentioned that he has been involved in 3D since he was 10 years old but stopped when his RBT camera broke.   He says that Reg Hartt is now projecting 3D films from the 1950's era.  Josh and Reg don't see eye to eye so Josh was interested  to know how he is projecting in 3D.  He had a showing on June 1st and continues to show them at his house on Bathurst south of College.  www.cineforum.ca

Sarah Shrigley has been taking medium format long exposures at night time.  Her exposures are usually about 12 seconds in length.  Dr. T got her involved in 3D photography.

This was Oliver Haddarath's first meeting.  He said that he enjoyed looking at stereo images with a scanning electron microscope  when he was an undergraduate working at the Ontario Science Centre. He then bought a Revere at a camera shop on Queen St.  He now shoots 3D in digital and Timo Puhakka built the rig for his Canon cameras.

Timo got introduced to the group when he bumped into Simon Bell while in Arizona.  Simon saw a camera rig he built for a pair of Olympus cameras which got them talking about 3D.  Timo also built the mount for Peter Sinclair's Canon TX1 3 camera rig for shooting lenticulars.  Timo did a nice job of hiding the sync wires and he mounted the switch to the camera body.  He put 2-12V LED panels inside a Kodak viewer.  He put a yellow filter behind the diffuser to compensate for a slight blue colour shift.  He found the 12V LED panels  on a search on eBay which are actually used for car turn signals.  He gets his 8 Megapixel views converted to film for viewing in the viewer.

Peter Sinclair is the only person in the world offering a lenticular printing service for Nimslo and Nishika cameras.  He had lenticular bookmarks for sale at $2 ea. or 3 for $5.  Someone asked what lenticular prints were and Peter was only too happy to explain the concept to them.  The postcards he was selling are made from 9 images at slightly different angles and offer a smoother image as you look at the print.  The print of Norman Rockwell's "The Sphinx"  is made from 35 images for the highest quality and the polaroid material has 100 Lines per inch.

David Delouchery mentioned that the website address has been changed to www.stereoontario3d.org  The meeting closed with some snacks and  digitally projected 3D images by our host, Jani.